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Is Technocracy compatible with our faith?

Transformator Reformator

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It seems that the U.S is on the path of realizing the technate map of America. If that is the case. How do Christians should respond? Does our faith require us to oppose it, to embrace it, or be neutral, if Technocracy will be a way forward?

Here is one definition: the government or control of society or industry by an elite of technical experts.

For context, here are a video, apparently it is not new idea, Elon Musk's father was advocate of this in 1930's.


 
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I don't think technocracy is compatible with the Christian faith. Technocracy just seems like a mechanism for corrupt oligarchs to justify their own selfish activities.

The rulers of the earth conspire together against the LORD, and against His Christ. The One seated in Heaven laughs at them. YAHWEH will not
 
Bartato said:
I don't think technocracy is compatible with the Christian faith. Technocracy just seems like a mechanism for corrupt oligarchs to justify their own selfish activities.

The rulers of the earth conspire together against the LORD, and against His Christ. The One seated in Heaven laughs at them. YAHWEH will not
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Would you actively oppose implementation of this?

What we have now - a republic, for some democracy is also prone to corruption.
 
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The God who created all things reigns over all, but most world leaders are of their father, the devil, and the desires of their father they want to do. I think satan and his demonic minions will/are corrupting and perverting the world system to keep people on the broad road to destruction. We are to pray for the salvation of the souls of our leaders, and obey them as much as God requires. Government cannot save sinners, indeed they are sinners who need salvation, so to have one's hope in government is a wrong foundation. Like all other sinners, we treat them not as enemies but as the mission field.
 
Technocracy is rule by experts.

Author comes from author. And author is somebody from writes, in this case, your "life script". In essence, being under authority means authority is deciding what your life will be.

Where is in Bible verses supporting being under authority for general grown up man? I don't see them.
 
MemeFan said:
Technocracy is rule by experts.
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They are only self-declared experts. I suspect none of them would be experts in the truth of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. In fact, Psalm 14:1 would probably be applicable to most of those experts;
The fool has said in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt,
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good.

Whether it's an aristocracy, democracy, dictatorship, technocracy or something else, it will only be a government by sinners until the King of Kings reigns.
 
We in the West have had largely technocratic governments for the last 100 years. Look what they have brought us. It has been debt, war, population replacement, racial strife, feminism, sodomy, indoctrination, and 10,000 other evils.

Anthony Fauci and the whole massive COVID debacle is just one face of technocracy.

These people aren't even good technical experts. Many of them aren't very bright, aren't particularly knowledgeable, yet they boldly lie to our faces.
 
frederick said:
And those voters who want the democratic system can keep in mind it gave them Joe Biden as President of the USA.
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No it didn’t.
Theft of the election gave us Biden.

Prosecutions are finally on the horizon.
 
Mojo said:
What makes you think it hasn’t already been implemented?
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Good point.

If that is the case, what is wrong with experts selecting one another. They would be great at efficiency, if that is what we are striving after.

I think JD Vance was specifically selected as project of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk to get us there.
MemeFan said:
Where is in Bible verses supporting being under authority for general grown up man? I don't see them.
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It may be argued that Hebrews 13:17 says that.
 
I see technocracy as pragmatism on steroids. There is no heart in there. A technocrat executing his expertise may overlook sanctity of life. An expert may suggest that based on statistics certain groups should be sterilized or eliminated. A technocrat may decide that the only way to stop climate change is to reduce population (I do not believe in it but too many people do). The end always justify the means for them. This is what I think advocates of technate state would do. It is my opinion that this is happening as we speak and too many of us ok with this. We already tolerating this approach.

Technocracy may actually be good if there was good way of having check and balances against innate propensity to wickedness. If there is solution for that, technocracy like any other political system may be manageable.

Declaration of Independence in USA was great because it suggested possiblity
“If this government to this end, shall become corrupt it shall be the right and privilege of the people to abolish such a government and to reestablish a new government that will ensure the success and security of the people “
 

Is Technocracy compatible with our faith?​



As my late father used to say on occasion, "The answer's not just 'NO,' it's HELL NO!"

The AI god is intended, budgeted, and definitely on-track to replace Him, and destroy those who fall for it.

Easy exercise for the reader: Connect the dots ending with "Mark of the Beast."
 
Transformator Reformator said:
What we have now - a republic,
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sorry --- HAD --

Transformator Reformator said:
for some democracy
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Only those who have never read any of America's founding documents, OR the actual Constitution (check: the word 'demo-' in ANY FORM WHASOEVER is not in there)

Transformator Reformator said:
is also prone to corruption.
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“If Men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and the next place, oblige it to control itself.” ​

― James Madison Federalist #51

"Let no more be heard of confidence in men, but rather bind them down by the chains of the Constitution."
-- Thomas Jefferson


Ben Franklin, too, said that the government would likely be "well administered," for a period of years, but eventually fall to "despotism," for reasons that are now obvious.
 
Mark C said:
Only those who have never read any of America's founding documents, OR the actual Constitution (check: the word 'demo-' in ANY FORM WHASOEVER is not in there)
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I am making assumption that people from other countries may participate in the forum, so their governments may be a democracy. Or at least in the name.
 
Transformator Reformator said:
I am making assumption that people from other countries may participate in the forum, so their governments may be a democracy. Or at least in the name.
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Some of those places are probably further along toward "technocracy" as well. But 'democracy' gets there...

"Democracy and socialism are inseparable." - V. I. Lenin
 
Bartato said:
Anthony Fauci and the whole massive COVID debacle is just one face of technocracy.
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I attended an event where one of the speakers was Larry Arnn of Hillsdale College.

He made this exact point. The experts in one field make decisions that affect other fields that they have no knowledge of. Unidimensional thinking is what got us into the Covid mess. Epidemiologists are not economists. Economists are not legal experts and lawyers are not doctors.

His point was that future leaders need to be trained to think critically and virtuously, not narrowly and secularly.

Good presentation.
 
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