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  • The Revolting Man
    So where is this father’s authority laid out in scripture? Is it just Exodus 22:17? It can be Numbers 30 for reasons I’m about to show you but what exactly are you basing this idea of a father’s covering on? If it’s Numbers 30 then fantastic. I...
  • frederick
    And remains there until he gives her to be under another's authority unless, of course, he's died. If someone steals something it doesn't change the rightful owner's ownership or authority over it.
  • frederick
    Both are the same in terms of the girl being under her father's covering. The father still has that authority - regardless of how the sexual act occurred. Whether it was her own free will, or whether it was rape. She's still under her father's...
  • The Revolting Man
    These are two entirely different circumstances. One is a rape and one is not. But do you claim that Exodus 22:17 cancels Deuteronomy 22:28-29? Do you say that they contradict each other? Because if they do then we have a much bigger problem.
  • The Revolting Man
    First off you do think God has to repeat himself because I’ve heard you use the ridiculous “wasn’t established by two witnesses” defense. But I guess I am going to need a little clarification here. Are you saying that the consensual seduction of...
  • The Revolting Man
    I’m sorry; I must be very dense. Where is the father’s veto in Deuteronomy 22:28-29? I missed it. Oh no, I just reread it. It’s not in there anywhere. So now you have the heavily disputed seduction passage, the completely unsupportable (for this...
  • The Revolting Man
    The Revolting Man replied to the thread Guess I'm not welcomed.
    Who defines sin? The answer is God of course. So find me the sin of bad theology. It shouldn’t be hard. @Mark C has claimed that idolatry is the sin of bad theology but I would contend that idolatry is the sin of idolatry. I tend towards a...
  • steve
    IF we go back and read Duet chapter 1 we see Moses is RETELLING the story of the exodus and reminding people of the commands that he gave in Gen, Exo and Lev. Duet is a second telling, not a new set of commands. It has been 40 years and he...
  • steve
    steve reacted to Mark C's post in the thread Gender based ideology gap with Like Like.
    The real root of the problem is Scriptural Authority. The "Head of House" - husband, father - is explicitly given such authority, starting in Genesis. The very ROLE has now been usurped by the 'Almighty State' that hates YHVH, hates His...
  • steve
    steve replied to the thread Guess I'm not welcomed.
    You must have your private interpretation for either the word theology, or the word sin. Because that statement is more than ridiculous.
  • steve
    steve reacted to The Revolting Man's post in the thread Guess I'm not welcomed with Haha Haha.
    Bad theology is not sin.
  • steve
    Does Deuteronomy 22 cancel Exodus 17?
  • steve
    YAH does not have to repeat himself. Deut 22:28:29 does not contradict or nullify his previous instruction from Exodus 22:17. I know atheists that look for reasons not to seek their Creator, and Deut 22:28:29 is one of their favorite verses to...
  • steve
    Would you finally read that response this time around? Does YHVH have to keep repeating Himself, or is saying that the father has "veto authority" more than once (including the story of Dinah!) not sufficient? Or are you seriously arguing that...
  • steve
    What is the purpose of YHVH’s sacrifice? The great “I AM?” “Yah is Salvation?” Well he says it - he is the bread of life. The Word made flesh. Whomever does not eat his flesh has no life. “Sanctification leads to life.” Sanctify them by the...
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