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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

PS> I heard a great interview the other day with a woman I was not familiar with, named Sara Gonzales, (from the Blaze, evidently) on H-1B visas and associated "fraud." Ostensible "legal immigration," she made quite an eye-opening case AGAINST them.
 
But for the families that are already here illegally - that are not causing issues - share similar beliefs - hard working and family oriented - these are not the one’s that should be targeted. Instead they should be given grace through a path to citizenship - especially if they’ve demonstrated they are not causing problems - and want to work.
That’s likely to happen. There’s too many to physically deport.

I believe that this storming of cities is designed to demoralize a good percentage of those here already into self-deportation. The rounding up of the poor hamburger flipper trying to make rent is mostly a media promulgation.

I have posted in other threads about the need to stop lumping all groups together and demonizing immigration as a whole. You are correct that many Hispanics share the values of hard work and family. The largest growth in evangelicalism and conservatism is amongst their ranks. But it isn’t an excuse to let law breakers abuse our laws. Period.
 
In my opinion Trump administration is allowing leftist to hang themselves in Minnesota.

Now Democrats look like supporting of fraudsters and violent people. With time even average Democrat Joe will become disguisted with party and support Trump cracking them with regular army (via Insurrection act).

Fraudsters, rapists, murderers and arsonists are never popular in any society.
 
I have posted in other threads about the need to stop lumping all groups together and demonizing immigration as a whole. You are correct that many Hispanics share the values of hard work and family. The largest growth in evangelicalism and conservatism is amongst their ranks. But it isn’t an excuse to let law breakers abuse our laws. Period.
What form of conservatism is popular among Hispanics?

If they are bigger socialists than Americans, it doesn't look good in long run. And since they are coming from less developed and not fast growing states, they are coming from socialistic culture.

If Latin America was hardcore property rights and free trade, they would be growing faster than USA due to catch up effect.
 
Like it or not, there are cultures that have been deliberately imported (and yes, that means Islam, and Satanism, and a ton of other -isms) that are simply utterly incompatible with "western civilization." The harm is corrosive, and subtle. Like fiat "money" - it may take a century to manifest, but it is ultimately entirely fatal.
Of course, I agree there. I mentioned this in the other post - I liken them to locusts - and the politicians that approved it as corrupt. The best solution is deportation unless you want what's on the menu over there in Europe.
 
In my opinion Trump administration is allowing leftist to hang themselves in Minnesota.
From your lips...

Now Democrats look like supporting of fraudsters and violent people. With time even average Democrat Joe will become disguisted with party and support Trump cracking them with regular army (via Insurrection act).

Fraudsters, rapists, murderers and arsonists are never popular in any society.

Would that it were true. I've certainly seen more than a few who are. But I truly am beginning to wonder about Minnesota. And while I know LOTS of good Californians - the ones I see have all LEFT...
 
What form of conservatism is popular among Hispanics?

If they are bigger socialists than Americans, it doesn't look good in long run. And since they are coming from less developed and not fast growing states, they are coming from socialistic culture.

If Latin America was hardcore property rights and free trade, they would be growing faster than USA due to catch up effect.
Latin America is a huge landmass. It’s hard to pin down just one philosophy and declare it universal.

Some of the most ardent opponents of socialism I’ve heard are expats of socialistic countries like Cuba and Venezuela.

In terms of traditionalism (normally thought of as social conservatism) Catholic Hispanics are mostly traditional (see Texas where horse riding, hunting, church going, military service and close family bonds are as traditional American as you can get) . Second and third generations and beyond, with more college indoctrination, is where it breaks down.

You don’t live in this country. It’s hard to nail down the intricacies from a far away land via the Internet.
 
Latin America is a huge landmass. It’s hard to pin down just one philosophy and declare it universal.

Some of the most ardent opponents of socialism I’ve heard are expats of socialistic countries like Cuba and Venezuela.

In terms of traditionalism (normally thought of as social conservatism) Catholic Hispanics are mostly traditional (see Texas where horse riding, hunting, church going, military service and close family bonds are as traditional American as you can get) . Second and third generations and beyond, with more college indoctrination, is where it breaks down.

You don’t live in this country. It’s hard to nail down the intricacies from a far away land via the Internet.
Look, reality is that newcomers will have political influence. How much, it depends.

Will their influence be good or not that's question.

Even Ludwig von Mises, restorer of classical liberalism was against arrival of Germans living under Hitler? Why? Highly likely Germans will be fans of socialism, dictatorship etc...
 
Would that it were true. I've certainly seen more than a few who are. But I truly am beginning to wonder about Minnesota. And while I know LOTS of good Californians - the ones I see have all LEFT...
Even most Democrats (I mean their base) are for deportations. No party can continue while alienating their base.

This is reason of growing ADF's popularity in Germany. Other parties are destroying their base so save ruling globalists.

This can't continue.
 
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Even most Democrats (I mean their base) are for deportations. No party can continue while alienating their base.
...Other parties are destroying their base so save ruling globalists.
Sadly, I do not believe that has been their goal for a long time.

The goal is to destroy society as a whole, based on a paradigm they hate. A culture of death has no real objection to suicide.
 
Sadly, I do not believe that has been their goal for a long time.

The goal is to destroy society as a whole, based on a paradigm they hate. A culture of death has no real objection to suicide.
Correct. It is about destroying the system to institute a new one detached from traditional, libertarian constitutionalism. It’s largely already worked.

There are almost no sane democrats left. The ones left don’t want immigration reduction. White liberals need them to pick their organic fruit and clean their net zero homes for cheap. Screw the American workers!

Remember when the left fought for American workers against the elites?

LISTEN TO THIS!

 
Sadly, I do not believe that has been their goal for a long time.

The goal is to destroy society as a whole, based on a paradigm they hate. A culture of death has no real objection to suicide.
It doesn't matter what tbeir goal is. Reality is that base isn't suicidal. Base may have suicide "helping" beliefs, but they won't vote themselves out of existence. Some part of base, but minority.

In the end, it's simple. Ruling elite tries to establish economic system favourable to them which means, according to economic laws, suffering for rest which means widespread disatisfaction which means even their base isn't happy.

Only elites control of state power keeps them not broke or hanged.

This can't continue. How long I don't know. Reason is simply. Now anyone smart or succesful can start counter revolution by mobilizing masses (Trump for example) against elite. And elite must defeat every challenger.

So math is simple: it takes just one defeat to lose their heads. And nobody keeps winning forever.
 
It doesn't matter what tbeir goal is. Reality is that base isn't suicidal. Base may have suicide "helping" beliefs, but they won't vote themselves out of existence. Some part of base, but minority.
How many wore the self-destructive masks and took the suicidal Poison Poke - whether they KNEW how deadly that all was, or not?
 
How many wore the self-destructive masks and took the suicidal Poison Poke - whether they KNEW how deadly that all was, or not?
Who cares now?

Can you stop blackpilling? Elite can't keep doing bad things to their populace and expect happiness. They must lose because they are creating situation where they must lose. And this is enough.

Only question is when.
 
Can you stop blackpilling?

Acknowledging obvious, even deadly, Truth is not "blackpilling." If the goal is to kill BILLIONS - and it IS, whether you like it or not - some of us believe we have an obligation to "blow the shofar." Their deaths are then on their own heads.

I have friends, neighbors, and relatives who are alive today because we argued, and they eventually listened. Not one of 'em would be callous enough to call what saved them 'blackpilling.'
 
Here's the problem we seem to have, @MemeFan, with your assumption on the 'elite' - even though we probably agree on many aspects:

It assumes
In the end, it's simple. Ruling elite tries to establish economic system favourable to them which means, according to economic laws, suffering for rest which means widespread disatisfaction which means even their base isn't happy...only State power [keeps them alive].
and that they therefore will 'fail' because it "can't continue."

You forget who they serve, and it isn't YHVH. And their master "comes but to steal, kill, and destroy."
Their very GOAL is death.


The Adversary wins when anyone chooses death, as opposed to 'life.' Don't fall for it.
 
Acknowledging obvious, even deadly, Truth is not "blackpilling." If the goal is to kill BILLIONS - and it IS, whether you like it or not - some of us believe we have an obligation to "blow the shofar." Their deaths are then on their own heads.
I'm talking about emotions or frame behing your last post. I wrote something about certainty of victory and you answer with question about masks and poke.

So "emotional tonality" moves from our victory (my post) towards their victory and rheir damages (your post). I try to get "emotional tonality" back towards our victory. It just ain't good to only keep looking at their achievements.

Besides, poke did harm most to their supporters and taught everyone else not to trust these bastards. So from perspective of populace support for elite, they reduced their own ranks while swelling ranks of their enemies.

If you were in "better mindset" you would notice elites double own goal. *

I have friends, neighbors, and relatives who are alive today because we argued, and they eventually listened. Not one of 'em would be callous enough to call what saved them 'blackpilling.'
Nice from you.

*If you don't get reference, it's from European football when you help opposite team.
 
Here's the problem we seem to have, @MemeFan, with your assumption on the 'elite' - even though we probably agree on many aspects:

It assumes

and that they therefore will 'fail' because it "can't continue."

You forget who they serve, and it isn't YHVH. And their master "comes but to steal, kill, and destroy."
Their very GOAL is death.


The Adversary wins when anyone chooses death, as opposed to 'life.' Don't fall for it.
And you are now proving my point.

Like Lord will allow elites to keep doing infinite sins, instead of destroying their whole evil system.
 
And you are now proving my point.

Like Lord will allow elites to keep doing infinite sins, instead of destroying their whole evil system.
And to add another point.

When Lord deals with current elite, Satan/Adversary will have to find new supporters. Sadly for him, they will have to be less powerful than current guys.
 
And to add another point.

When Lord deals with current elite, Satan/Adversary will have to find new supporters. Sadly for him, they will have to be less powerful than current guys.
The adversary will use the same exact supporters - they aren’t going anywhere until either their Spirit returns to the Most High, or the curtains are pulled back with the revealing and judgment of the Lamb of God. When that happens - Satan and his deceived followers will perish.

So the ‘elite’ you speak of are not in any danger - at least from a human standpoint. They went from being billionaires to knocking on trillionaires door. They own the news. They own the corporations. They own the sports teams. They own the politicians. That is the fruit of a fiat currency backed by nothing.

And until the curtains are pulled back - they will continue to have power on the earth. Why? Because they plan many years ahead. You think that they don’t know that their policies are self destructive? Of course they know. So they plan ahead.

Why do you think Satan pushed feminism? Because he knew it would destroy the family unit. Scripture says if the wife is the provider then there is going to be anger, arrogance, and ultimately a lack of attraction leading to a strong possibility of divorce. He uses this scripture against us for those ignorant of his schemes. Just like he used the fiat currency. He knows it’s going to cause destruction and death. People don’t heed the warning of Paul - because they reject the manna that comes from Heaven - just like the Israelites did in the wilderness - preferring the food (customs) of Egypt. Likewise, with this generation. They reject the Bread of Life - who through his Word and Heavenly Wisdom - gives life and gives it abundantly - but they prefer the wisdom from the world - which ways are not good.

And it doesn’t matter who is in office - they are all spending like there is no tomorrow. Milking every last drop from a system that was always designed to fail, and the prices of gold and silver are further evidence of this.

But when this current fiat system collapses - and the destruction that comes with it - you don’t think they won’t already have a new system ready in place? They’ve probably been working on it many years. Just like they had the Covid vaccine ready in record time - when usually - these things take time. I don’t think the ultimate plan of the vaccines was to kill a lot of people. But definitely weaken the body and of course - further bring the world into debt. A dead body is not profitable. A weakened body is still profitable. That’s why a lot of these terrible ingredients they put in our food supply - won’t immediately impact your health (praise YAH’s handiwork) - but over time it will indeed destroy your body - leading you to spend your life savings at a hospital.
 
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