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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

steve said:
Notice how few missiles they are sending out lately.
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Maybe it's revelant. What is important is reduction of sustainable manufacturing.

Maybe Iran is producing 20 missiles a day and firing 10 which implies growing stockpile.

Besides, you want massive barrage at start of war before enemy gets a chance to move it's hideouts.
 
Bartato said:
Though they have no nuclear weapons, I think the principal of "Mutually assured destruction" still applies. Trump doesn't seem to get this.
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According to my info, mullahs have end-time ideology where they create war which destroys USA and Israel which means that using nuke is good way to start promised war.

Remember, mutually assured destruction works only on people who want to stay alive. Madmans, religious zealots, psihos etc.. aren't included. This list includes mullahs.

Only reason North Korea got nukes is massive artillery threathing Seoul (metropolis with 10M+ people). Iran tried same with drones and missile instead of artillerty.
 
MemeFan said:
What is important is reduction of sustainable manufacturing.
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I’m pretty convinced that this is being more than adequately covered.
 
MemeFan said:
According to my info, mullahs have end-time ideology where they create war which destroys USA and Israel which means that using nuke is good way to start promised war.
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MemeFan said:
Remember, mutually assured destruction works only on people who want to stay alive. Madmans, religious zealots, psihos etc.. aren't included. This list includes mullahs.
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The people currently running the governments of the West are also madmen, lunatics, and psychos who love death. They have intentionally imported millions upon millions of largely incompatible foreigners. They have put us all into unpayable debt. They are racing towards destruction.

Just like Psalm 2 tells us, they hate YAHWEH and conspire against Him, and His Anointed. He is enthroned in heaven and laughs at them.

I don't include Orban in that assessment, but do include pretty much every other major leader.

I hoped better of Trump, voting for him all three times, but he is now in deep trouble.
 
Our friends and allies in Asia are running out of fuel. Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines are long-standing allies, and Trump's war threw them all under the bus.

India, Thailand, and Vietnam are also fairly friendly to us, and are also getting desperate.

Is Trump trying to get them all to ally with China against us?

Much of the world's nitrogen fertilizer supply comes from the Gulf (urea is manufactured using natural gas). Without this important input, global crop yields will drop significantly. Millions of poor people around the world will suffer.
 
Bartato said:
Our friends and allies in Asia are running out of fuel. Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines are long-standing allies, and Trump's war threw them all under the bus.

India, Thailand, and Vietnam are also fairly friendly to us, and are also getting desperate.
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Seems like it might be a feature, not a bug.
“Hey Asia…want a reliable fuel source????? We’ve got loads here in the US and now in Venezuela….Do you know our friends the Saudis, Kuwait, UAE???? We can cut a deal with you.”

Once Venezuelan oil is up and running at full steam, it locks out China and then we can flood the commodity market with oil to make global prices decrease.

I’m not an economist. I’m just thinking that this might all be part of the bigger picture.
 
Mojo said:
Seems like it might be a feature, not a bug.
“Hey Asia…want a reliable fuel source????? We’ve got loads here in the US and now in Venezuela….Do you know our friends the Saudis, Kuwait, UAE???? We can cut a deal with you.”

Once Venezuelan oil is up and running at full steam, it locks out China and then we can flood the commodity market with oil to make global prices decrease.

I’m not an economist. I’m just thinking that this might all be part of the bigger picture.
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My thoughts are the same. The USA was an oil exporter in the old days and made a ton of money doing it. And now with a handle on Venezuela the USA is in a good position to profit even more.

Meanwhile, Asia is in doo doo land, and the doo doo is getting deeper by the day.
 
Heavens Declare said:
to open a strait that doesn't even affect us,
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That's Trump's claim - but you should know that he's a proven liar. Such people are destined for destruction (Psalm 5:6).

It does affect the USA. Look at gas prices. It also severely impacts the Asian countries. Where do most of our goods come from? They will pass the cost to the United States. So prices for every day goods will go up. Therefore, inflation will climb even higher due to this war. What about spending money we don't have on missiles against a nation that posed no threat? Further erosion of the dollar and your spending power. And remember - Trump "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's nuclear facilities in 2025 in "Operation Midnight Hammer." You can't believe anything that comes from his lying mouth.

"But Iran has long-range ballistic missiles." So does the USA and Israel. Has Iran bombed Gaza? Has Iran bombed Hiroshima? The Iranian people had no quarrel with the US. But guess what happens when you bomb their children? They have a problem with the West. So expect terrorism attacks to sky rocket throughout the West (Europe and USA). Side Note: This is not the same Trump as 2016. He is infiltrated. He has become the thing he vowed to fight against (the swamp). Welcome to American politics.
 
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Otto said:
That's Trump's claim - but you should know that he's a proven liar. Such people are destined for destruction (Psalm 5:6).

It does affect the USA. Look at gas prices. It also severely impacts the Asian countries. Where do most of our goods come from? They will pass the cost to the United States. So prices for every day goods will go up. Therefore, inflation will climb even higher due to this war. What about spending money we don't have on missiles against a nation that posed no threat? Further erosion of the dollar and your spending power. And remember - Trump "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's nuclear facilities in 2025 in "Operation Midnight Hammer." You can't believe anything that comes from his lying mouth.

"But Iran has long-range ballistic missiles." So does the USA and Israel. Has Iran bombed Gaza? Has Iran bombed Hiroshima? The Iranian people had no quarrel with the US. But guess what happens when you bomb their children? They have a problem with the West. So expect terrorism attacks to sky rocket throughout the West (Europe and USA). Side Note: This is not the same Trump as 2016. He is infiltrated. He has become the thing he vowed to fight against (the swamp). Welcome to American politics.
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I agree that Iran wasn’t an imminent threat to the US with missiles. But it doesn’t mean they weren’t a threat.

Reagan, Clinton Bushes, Obama, Autopen all saw it. Axis of Evil and so on. Proxy sponsor. Assassination on Trump, etc.

They’ve been a threat since 79. Im old enough to remember the hostage crisis and Carter’s incompetence.

However you slice it, they were a threat of some kind globally.

But I’m still convinced that just like the Gulf war, this is about economics and oil.
 
steve said:
Btw: The No Kings protests on Palm Sunday?
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In case anyone missed it, my point was that Palm Sunday was when the Jews declared Yeshuah king, as opposed to the demonstrators declaring for no kings.
Interesting date for them to have chosen.
 
Bartato said:
The people currently running the governments of the West are also madmen, lunatics, and psychos who love death. They have intentionally imported millions upon millions of largely incompatible foreigners. They have put us all into unpayable debt. They are racing towards destruction.

Just like Psalm 2 tells us, they hate YAHWEH and conspire against Him, and His Anointed. He is enthroned in heaven and laughs at them.

I don't include Orban in that assessment, but do include pretty much every other major leader.

I hoped better of Trump, voting for him all three times, but he is now in deep trouble.
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Good analysis.

I think Trump is in better position than you think. ICE will secure midterms and ensure Trump's victory. Remember, leftists have promised them criminal prosecutions minimum.

If you are police force and your political enemies promise you jail for winning elections, you insure unfair elections.

Current Western elites loves death too. Horewer, they aren't fans of child soldiers (IRCG has lowered minimum age of participation to 12). Also, I do believe they aren't that big fans of nuclear wars (otherwise Putin's threat of nuking them wouldn't work).

Also, Ukraine war has proven existince of rather large class of "high and middle managers" not willing to following "top managers" in nuclear confrontation with Russia.

IRCG is worse.
 
Mojo said:
I agree that Iran wasn’t an imminent threat to the US with missiles. But it doesn’t mean they weren’t a threat.

Reagan, Clinton Bushes, Obama, Autopen all saw it. Axis of Evil and so on. Proxy sponsor. Assassination on Trump, etc.
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Don't use imminent threat civilian thinking for states.

You see, state has to allow for modicum of self-defense since police can't always arrive at time. However, if threat expected arrival time is one week, you have plenty of time to call police and wait for them to do their job.

Well, state live in anarchy between themselves. There is no global police to prevent slowly coming threat. So state has itself deal with problem. Without global police concept of imminent threat doesn't make sense.

Beat way to deal with threaths is when they are small and since state itself has to deal with threat, better sooner than later.
 
MemeFan said:
Don't use imminent threat civilian thinking for states.

You see, state has to allow for modicum of self-defense since police can't always arrive at time. However, if threat expected arrival time is one week, you have plenty of time to call police and wait for them to do their job.

Well, state live in anarchy between themselves. There is no global police to prevent slowly coming threat. So state has itself deal with problem. Without global police concept of imminent threat doesn't make sense.

Beat way to deal with threaths is when they are small and since state itself has to deal with threat, better sooner than later.
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Maybe we should define our definitions of imminent.

Mine is weeks or even months of a missile or large scale targeted attack. I’m not privy to inside information but I don’t think something like that was coming.

Iran is always a threat to authorize terror proxies. That’s been known.
 
Otto said:
That's Trump's claim - but you should know that he's a proven liar. Such people are destined for destruction (Psalm 5:6).

It does affect the USA. Look at gas prices. It also severely impacts the Asian countries. Where do most of our goods come from? They will pass the cost to the United States. So prices for every day goods will go up. Therefore, inflation will climb even higher due to this war. What about spending money we don't have on missiles against a nation that posed no threat? Further erosion of the dollar and your spending power. And remember - Trump "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's nuclear facilities in 2025 in "Operation Midnight Hammer." You can't believe anything that comes from his lying mouth.

"But Iran has long-range ballistic missiles." So does the USA and Israel. Has Iran bombed Gaza? Has Iran bombed Hiroshima? The Iranian people had no quarrel with the US. But guess what happens when you bomb their children? They have a problem with the West. So expect terrorism attacks to sky rocket throughout the West (Europe and USA). Side Note: This is not the same Trump as 2016. He is infiltrated. He has become the thing he vowed to fight against (the swamp). Welcome to American politics.
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Politically, I disagree with your conclusions. I believe that Trump is aware that their is a very short timeline for him to achieve his purpose and is taking bold steps to achieve it. He has for years openly advocated for us to bring our manufacturing back to the USA. That is happening. Slower than I would like but it is happening.

With regard to Iran, there is a complete disconnect between the populace of Iran and the leadership of Iran. The populace will not hate us for taking out the leadership that has oppressed them for decades. All war has unintended deaths of innocents. We have become better and better at preventing it to the point that it is now notable when we error and cost the lives of innocents.

The America first policy is good. Note also that Trump has openly advocated for other countries leaders to adopt an identical approach putting their countries first.

That is a capitalistic approach that causes market forces to solve intricate relationships at the point of contact in a way that central planning cannot comprehend.

In the end, it will not work. The world will devolve into chaos and war will break out. The forces of evil know that their time is short and they will resist the good as they are fighting a war in the spiritual realm that most do not realize is even going on.

Yah's will be done on earth, as it is in heaven, soon and very soon!
 
Man_in_the_Middle said:
I believe that Trump is aware that their is a very short timeline for him to achieve his purpose and is taking bold steps to achieve it
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Especially in light of certain impeachment and/or indictment during or after his term is up.

The Dems are now openly advocating for him to be indicted by the world courts over the Iran war, forgetting that Obummer targeted other nations without war powers or congressional authority during his tenure and he was the messiah with a Nobel peace prize.
 
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