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Becoming more physically attractive

I hear what you’re saying, but I’m old enough to remember when Sean Connery was People Magazine sexiest man.

He was late 50s/early 60s, balding, grey haired and sort of dad bod (not fat, but no longer svelt).

It was partly his exotic accent, but really a combo of his manliness and confidence. That goes a looonnnggg way.
 
I have come to believe that what women value in a man is the access he gives her to the make hierarchy. To make yourself more attractive to women, you have to become more attractive to men….:eek:

You know wha I mean, don’t make it weird.

I know you don't know me, but I saw that look in your eye. I can control the mood of the room, don't worry, it's not weird. Don't look at the women, we don't want them to know our interest level this early on.

I hear what you’re saying, but I’m old enough to remember when Sean Connery was People Magazine sexiest man.

He was late 50s/early 60s, balding, grey haired and sort of dad bod (not fat, but no longer svelt).

It was partly his exotic accent, but really a combo of his manliness and confidence. That goes a looonnnggg way.

I agree with this. See also George Clooney, the silver-haired fox who won People Magazine sexiest man twice. Although he may have been only old enough to qualify the second time.

My grandfather was charming women into his late 80s. The last time I went dancing with him must have been around his mid-80s and he had a short line of women waiting their turn for a song with him because of his dancing and flirting.
 
Being the right kind of man is more important than being a man who looks good to the wrong kind of women.
This runs both ways. We told our daughter she needed to bait the hook for what she wanted to catch. She was better off dressing conservatively and being passed up by a modern player, than dressing like a modern woman and being passed up by the old fashioned man looking for a wife!
 
I would not be as concerned with looks however that is important. I am more concerned with visceral fat: fat surrounding the heart, lungs, liver, pancreas. It makes the organs work harder. Pay attention to the arterial flow- read that blood pressure and stressors.
Body first removes visceral fat before removing belly fat. It knows that visceral is more dangerous.
 
For men seeking to improve themselves, weight loss, and muscle gain are straight forward objective and quantifiable ways to do that.

Calories, and grams of protein eaten can be measured. Calories burned, and a calorie deficits can be calculated.

Waist circumference, and weight loss are easily tracked.

Strength gain is quantifiable, based on lifting greater weights while exercising.

An improved body helps increase a man's confidence. Both the fit body, and the confident personality, help make him more appealing to potential employers, and business associates, as well as women.

These things typically help a man's wife respect him more, and also increase her desire for sexual relations with him. That's a good thing.

The fit body and confidence associated with it also help a man be a more effective leader, and we all want to be good leaders for our families.

If some single Christian sister sees that we are good leaders, and wants to come under our leadership, then great.
 
This runs both ways. We told our daughter she needed to bait the hook for what she wanted to catch. She was better off dressing conservatively and being passed up by a modern player, than dressing like a modern woman and being passed up by the old fashioned man looking for a wife!
That is a good point. If a woman dresses immodestly, she will attract more immoral men.
If she dresses conservatively and modestly, then she will attract more old fashioned men.

That doesn't mean she shouldn't dress well, or dress to attract. A young woman in a pretty dress (even a modest conservative dress) looks so much better than one in conservative and modest jeans and a sweatshirt.
 
Calories, and grams of protein eaten can be measured. Calories burned, and a calorie deficits can be calculated.

Yes, this is true.

I don't know if this helps you or anybody else who struggles with eating too much. I've been that guy a lot. Sometimes if we eat too much, we also will over-exercise in response. That's the wrong way.

Better to go lighter on the food and just eat under the level you body needs. Or if you're maintaining weight, eat what it needs. This is different for everyone.

Two stories, one funny, one just instructional.

Mr. Rogers held the same body weight in perfect stability for most of his life. Keep in mind this guy was supposedly six feet even. He stayed at 143 lbs. Why?

Because the number of letters in the phrase "I love you" are 1 - 4 - 3. Crazy, right? But he ate carefully and liked the regularly swim. He was a swimmer.

To me that's crazy light, but he was healthy and raised a family with a loving wife. They were married from 1952 until he died in 2003.

Other story.

I have had some eating disorder problems in the past. Fairly well managed most of the time now, but at some low points I would really stress-eat and pack away those buffet meals.

To learn how to fix this problem I took part in an eating addiction group for a few years and worked with an older man. He was a thin man who used to be giantly obese. I never got that heavy but when I did it was too much for me and I have always been terrified of going that route.

So, what he taught me is that he doesn't bother counting calories. He just has a list of safe foods, foods which are rare to eat, and forbidden foods. If someone is addicted to a chemical or substance, they need to abstain completely from it. But with food addiction a person can't just stop eating entirely forever.

So, the way he explained it was that he sees every meal each day as a tiger he has to let out of a cage. Then he has to put it back in the cage, which for him requires effort. And, he knows that he eats compulsively when he doesn't really need to eat, so every time he is considering eating he stops to ask himself if his body needs this food or if he is engaging in his compulsive behavior. The dude lost hundreds of pounds this way.

Anyway I do like to understand how many calories are in my normal staple foods and especially look at the calories when I think of buying something stupid because I'm on the go and in a certain emotional state, but generally I use the other guy's method.
 
low-carb (keto) is always the quickest weight loss for me. calorie restriction alone doesn't do anything for me and a lot of people report the same. people who successfully lose weight only restricting calories are the outliers, i think, and if you're not a super-exceptional person you shouldn't aim for that.
 
low-carb (keto) is always the quickest weight loss for me. calorie restriction alone doesn't do anything for me and a lot of people report the same. people who successfully lose weight only restricting calories are the outliers, i think, and if you're not a super-exceptional person you shouldn't aim for that.

Do you have any personal preferences for what you eat on keto?
 
well if there's a food you like there's probably a keto version on youtube.

i mean you can basically eat as much fat and protein as you want, and you won't want much, i notice severe appetite negative within a day.

you just restrict carbs. at my body comp i can have about 40 grams and still be in ketosis. that's enough to cover incidentals in protein shakes and maybe a few tortilla chips piled high with meat and cheese.

most recently i went from 220 to 195 in a month
 
What I battle with is how old age has slowed my metabolism and I just don't burn the energy up as quickly. When I was bodybuilding I forced myself to eat. I never did PED's but still ate a lot. Now, 40 years later, it's a challenge not to eat too much. It's important for older guys to get their protein intake up to help maintain muscle mass, which I've focused on. Staying away from the sweet soda drinks definitely helps in staying slimmer.
 
low-carb (keto) is always the quickest weight loss for me. calorie restriction alone doesn't do anything for me and a lot of people report the same. people who successfully lose weight only restricting calories are the outliers, i think, and if you're not a super-exceptional person you shouldn't aim for that.
I know keto reportedly works for a lot of people, but I don't think it is a natural or very sustainable approach in the long term.

It doesn't seem like the way God made the world to work. I think we are meant (and are able) to eat a wide variety of foods.

I don't simply count and reduce calories. I greatly reduced hyper processed and very sugary foods like soda, ice cream, candy, donuts etc. I don't totally ban any food, but generally try to minimize this stuff.

I've also reduced my carb intake overall, and increased my protein. I'll eat rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, but just smaller portions of them, and larger portions of eggs, fish, and meat.

Protein, fats, and fiber keep me full longer.
I also eat a lot of low calorie vegetables.

If someone simply does calorie reduction, they will usually lose a bunch of muscle as well as fat.

Keeping the protein uptake high, and lifting weights helps minimize this.

I've even heard of people on keto losing muscle.
 
larger portions of eggs, fish, and meat.

The doctor (wife) tells me the body requires a higher protein intake when one surpasses the 50 mark. Yes, steaks, fish, chicken, eggs, etc. are a major part of the normal diet. I don't sweat it if I have a cheat day occasionally, but it needs to be the exception, not the rule.

My dad is 95 and is doing very well, even though he was a smoker in his youth. He swims regularly for exercise and does a crossword daily to keep his mind active. It seems to be a good strategy.
 
I know keto reportedly works for a lot of people, but I don't think it is a natural or very sustainable approach in the long term.
you dont have to do it long term... i just do it occasionally for a month or two to lose a ton of weight. slowly gain some of it back, hop back on keto again in a year.
If someone simply does calorie reduction, they will usually lose a bunch of muscle as well as fat.
simple but not easy and not effective. keto is simple easy and effective.
I've even heard of people on keto losing muscle.
yeah you're rather automatically placed on an enormous calorie deficit, which is good. keep training and you minimize (or eliminate) muscle loss.
 
yeah you're rather automatically placed on an enormous calorie deficit, which is good. keep training and you minimize (or eliminate) muscle loss.
That's what I thought. It seems like keto automatically places you in an enormous calorie deficit, which also tends to lead to muscle loss.

Then again, like you said, it is something you can just do for short periods as needed. If it works for you, that's great.
 
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it does work for me but im going for more. i think "calories in, calories out" is functionally a truism.

it is hard to track and restrict calories at all, much less at a significant deficit. people frequently fail at this.

the body also down-regulates your passive energy usage, so reducing calories will actually lower the amount needed for maintenance. so you can't just subtract 10% and expect results, and even doing that is hard.
 
it does work for me but im going for more. i think "calories in, calories out" is functionally a truism.

it is hard to track and restrict calories at all, much less at a significant deficit. people frequently fail at this.

the body also down-regulates your passive energy usage, so reducing calories will actually lower the amount needed for maintenance. so you can't just subtract 10% and expect results, and even doing that is hard.
In my case, I eat probably 2500-3000 a day, and lose around 1-1.5 pounds a week, and it isn't particularly difficult. I am pretty active, and eat at least 150-180 grams of protein per day.

Going out to eat is where I tend to eat too much. It is easy to eat 2000+ calories in one meal out

What do you all think about whey protein? Typically I get about 50 grams of my protein each day from whey powder. I like meat, but find it hard to get enough protein from meat.

My wife prefers to buy grass fed , or organically raised meat, and eating a lot gets pricy.
 
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