Yes, and now there are many countries that permit and carry out full-term abortion!
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Meat One in Twelve
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Yet all too many of these are at the request/requirement of the sperm donor.
For sure, but sadly "the state" doesnt recognize little people that small.
There are also places killing toddlers and teens....and grandmas too!
Yes, and all of it - from the smallest to the oldest - is murder.
Would argue that it is more akin to the Fabians. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
No, in that case the Boulder PD retards with badges decided that a family member had killed the girl and they deliberately excluded, avoided, and possibly even destroyed evidence that went counter to their preferred narrative.
First those retards went after the mother. Then they spent twelve years trying to make a case against the brother and father.
In 1999 they got an indictment against the family...mother, brother, and father...for the murder and the DA ended up dropping the indictment because there was no evidence to support the case. There never was. It was all just bullshit cooked up by the retards with badges.
Another DA named Stan Garrett even tried to resurrect the case against the Ramsey family despite the fact that the family had been cleared by the DNA results!
In short, the Ramsey case was clustered by the utter incompetence of the Boulder PD. The Anthony crime scene was muddled by first responders, including police, who were doing their jobs the way they should and under the circumstances I think they did the best they could.
The reason I made these comparisons, is that, in the JonBenet case, her father found her body in the basement and literally carried her upstairs... because the police failed to conduct a thorough search or protect the crime scene to begin with. If the police had done their jobs to begin with, the parents may have had a stronger defense, and if they were involved (I think unlikely, but still a possibility), then a child killer/killers wouldn't have been allowed to run the crime scene, like the Ramsey's did.
With the Casey Anthony case, I was referring to the discovery of Caylee's body. If the police had done their jobs properly, and actually investigated the reports from the meter reader, her body would have been discovered 4 months earlier than it was.
Instead, they let her little body sit out there for months until the meter reader checked the area again, saw her skull and decided, like a dumbass to pick it up with a stick...
If you watch the trial (I'm not sure if you did?), you'll see that this was a big point of contention for the defense of Casey Anthony.
Roy Kronk was the meter reader and in his first call to a recorded tip line he left a vague description of where the "suspicious item" was. He told the tip line that what he saw "appeared to be" a skull.
"Appeared to be" is not going to elicit a strong response.
The second time he called he waited for the police and showed them what he had found. He probably should have started there.
In any case, the police did the best with what they had to work with. I am an endless critic of the police but in this case everything was just plain weird and I really do think they did their best with the situation.
Patrick has a solid alibi, he is seen on camera at CVS and at the restaurant picking up takeout. The people who believe Patrick did this are arguing that he committed the murders before he left the house, believing the children were dead, and that Lindsay was either dead or dying. They believe he used the errands as an alibi to buy time.
The neighbor actually saw Lindsay outside on the ground at like 5:50. They called Patrick while he was at the restaurant, but he didn't answer. They think he didn't answer the call because he already knew what it was about.
Patrick also made a phone call to the home while he was at CVS, to ask Lindsay if the generic brand of medication was ok. According to Patrick, Lindsay answered the phone and said yes but sounded distracted. People are thinking that because Patrick is extremely tech savvy (works in tech), he used the apple watch paired with Lindsay's phone to fake the phone call and the steps recorded on the step counter because both were logged at nearly identical times.
Apparently no significant fingerprints were found, and the DNA found was a mixture of the entire family, Patrick, Lindsay and the children.
Even during trials where blatant confessions are made, the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person confessing committed the crime.
I would think telling the tip line that he saw what appeared to be a skull would be pretty significant? Especially considering the close distance it was from the Anthony home, and the fact that there was an ongoing missing child investigation. The second call was made a day later when he realized nothing was being done. The third call, another day later, he waits for the police and the deputy refuses to go into the woods and dismissed it as trash. The final call was 4 months later in December.
Actually the Sheriff's Office did an internal investigation into the August calls and the failures related to it, and they fired one of their own officers for negligence.
This could be is true, or it could be people like me who believe that convicting someone for the rest of their lives should be treated seriously, and that's why preserving the crime scene is so important.PeopleIrrational women thinking things and believing things were evidence during the witch trials.
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Not so much. If you live in a rural area you see lots of skulls, lots of bones, and you don't get overly excited about them.
Kronk should have led the deputy to the skull. For whatever reason he did not. Pardon me if I am not going to blame the deputy who had to go look for something without knowing specifically where it was.
Yes, but he specifically called a hotline for a missing child and reported that he found a skull less than a mile from the Anthony home.
I'm not attempting to sway you into blaming anyone for anything, it doesn't matter to me either way, but that's just not what happened. The three calls happened over a span of 3 days, he didn't wait for the officers the first two times, on the third day he did. On the third day, he actively attempted to show and even lead the officer to Caylee, but the officer stood up by the road and dismissed it as trash. That's why the officer was fired for negligence.
Hubby was out with dogs less than 2 miles from home and found bones burried in a blanket a very shallow wash. He reported it and they were found to be from an elderly woman. We have no idea why they were there....but whatever family she might have may appreciate closure. I was out horseback with others on Dec 24th one year about 1994 when we found a dead man who just looked a bit dried out laying in a wash that flowed into the Hassayampa River. We reported that too and dome deputy had to sit out there all night Chrismas eve to protect the scene. Every day earth has arrivals...and departures.
It Patrick did it, why he didn't "finish off" wife. It doesn't make sense.
Telecom(s) should have metadata. Who called whom and how long it took.
I agree. The only thing I can think of "if" he did it, then he thought they were dead when he left. Lindsay could have been unconscious when she landed on the ground? If she wasn't then maybe he panicked and left her there hoping she would die. It's not like he could have finished her off right there because apparently that window was in view of the neighbors, being that the neighbor called Patrick to tell him that Lindsay was on the ground.
14 seconds, and the call was believed to be answered inside the home. The Apple watch was found inside of the home on or in the nightstand by the defense attorney, the police missed it during their search, not sure of the reason. I imagine that only adds to the idea that maybe he hid the watch for a reason, or that the police didn't preserve/search the scene well enough. This isn't something I know a lot of details about, yet. I haven't made it that far in the trial, I was just sharing what I've read from the people online who think Patrick had something to do with it.
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Why try to kill wife by throwing her outside house? If method fails, you can't finish job.
And probably wife would remember murder attempt.
Location of Apple watch doesn't matter. To make call, you have to use telecommunications network stations. Verizon, T-mobile do store data about call for their own purposes*. It's matter of subpoening telecoms. How to think intelligence agencies spy on people? Telecoms provide free infrastructure.
If husband was tech savvy, he should know above paragraf.
*They need to bill you correctly.