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Both are the same in terms of the girl being under her father's covering. The father still has that authority - regardless of how the sexual act occurred. Whether it was her own free will, or whether it was rape. She's still under her father's...

I’ll start with sin. Sin being defined as disobedience to Yah.

No, I have pointed out repeatedly, and no one has offered me even the slightest hint of a response; what happens if the father is unable to block the man from taking possession of the woman? The text just says that if the father “utterly refuses...

Another scriptural example - probably less mentioned - but it’s in Judges 21. The men of Benjamin needed wives. Due to certain circumstances - the other tribes were not able to give them any women for marriage - without breaking a vow they made...

So you agree with me that idolatry is its own, clearly defined sin and not the sin of bad theology? So do you still claim that there is a sin of bad theology? And if so, where is it laid out him scripture with it’s definition and punishment?

I know these are two different situations that are handled two different ways and neither one says that a father has an absolute veto over one flesh. Deuteronomy doesn’t even give an option for the father to absolutely refuse to give her to him...

You have to read these passages before you quote them. The men of Bemjamin were weak and had just been destroyed. These fathers could have easily gone and taken these daughters back and killed the Benjamites. And again, as with the pagan rapist...

Okay, so it’s not a command laid out in scripture. It’s a principle you infer from indirect teachings. That’s not completely illegitimate however when you are dealing with whether or not a binding one flesh relationship has been formed you are...

Another scriptural example - probably less mentioned - but it’s in Judges 21. The men of Benjamin needed wives. Due to certain circumstances - the other tribes were not able to give them any women for marriage - without breaking a vow they made...

For a guy who claims to be "hyper-literal" you sure make a lot of ASSUMPTIONS. I don't think you know the meaning of the verbs used in those verses, either. Much less when "entice" becomes "coerce."

Who defines sin? The answer is God of course. So find me the sin of bad theology. It shouldn’t be hard. @Mark C has claimed that idolatry is the sin of bad theology but I would contend that idolatry is the sin of idolatry. I tend towards a...

You must have your private interpretation for either the word theology, or the word sin. Because that statement is more than ridiculous.

Both are the same in terms of the girl being under her father's covering. The father still has that authority - regardless of how the sexual act occurred. Whether it was her own free will, or whether it was rape. She's still under her father's...

I’m sorry; I must be very dense. Where is the father’s veto in Deuteronomy 22:28-29? I missed it. Oh no, I just reread it. It’s not in there anywhere. So now you have the heavily disputed seduction passage, the completely unsupportable (for this...

Idiocy. Idolatry is the worship of fake gods. "Theos" = gods. There's One Real, the others are fakes. If you don't understand the meaning of simple words, your "hyper-literalism" is nothing but self-delusion. There, I saved everybody a lot...