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Exodus 22:16-17: "pre-marital sex" = the beginning of marriage?
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Only a leftist would consider that to be murderous and bloodthirsty! God ordered the death penalty for Israel! It is those same leftists who think that God is murderous and bloodthirsty!
Yes.
No.
That is for God to decide, if they will turn to Him in repentance. The death penalty is a pretty good motivator for said repentance.
And how would you make the determination of what the future holds?
Same here! Does the name Kenneth McDuff ring a bell?
I respect the dignity of human life in order to carry out swift execution of those who deny others their right to life. Scripture is clear that God's chosen people were to purge the evil from among them. We ought to do the same!
Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt!
And it prevents re-offending by 100% while ridding the land of evil.
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That is proper respect for human life, prevention of future occurrences.
But you do. If you say execute someone, you stop their possible redemption. So you did decision.
Where it says so? Could be motivation for even more defiance.
Practical reasoning. We need to keep criminal from harming others again. If criminal keeps escaping "his containment" and does evil, what else can I do? He is already given chance to behave.
I would also do it for mass murder.
Nope.
Do you realize you have just told Lord to do death penalty on you?
How exactly....?
Well, what is penalty for sin? Death.
So obvious choice is asking Lord for Mercy and not his Law.
You see, there is little issue of estopel. You can't justify death for others without same punishment being applied to you. You must stay consistent.
So if we should execute murderer because Lord's law, then Lord should execute you for every sin because Lord's law. See, same rule for you as for murderer.
I prefer Lord's Mercy and therefore I should give mercy to others, so that Lord can't use my behaviour as reason not to give me a Mercy.
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This is legal standard which says under which condition we should say suspect is considered guilty.
And it's nonsense to use for some crimes, like crossing road during red light.
But there is also question for which crimes which penalty.
An offender is innocent until proven guilty.
At that point they don’t rate even as much respect as they showed their victim.
Their Creator made the rules, why would we attempt to soften them?
Yah’s Word is specific enough for me.
Yet, there are humans that are broods of vipers.
The Creator is clear - purge the evil from among you. Without consequences there is no fear - and without fear rises wickedness. Those that reject the Father’s instructions on purging support wickedness (Proverbs 28:4).
The whole world is going to hell, and I can’t believe people are still questioning the Father in Heaven.
His instructions are perfect - reviving the soul. So why would we not follow his instructions?
Leviticus 19:29 - If fathers allow their daughters to become whores - then sin will grow - and the whole nation will turn to wickedness.
There are two safeguards to prevent this:
1. Mandatory bride price for taking a virgin.
2. Shaming of whores.
People decided to remove the first safeguard a long time ago.
The second safeguard has been recently taken out - through the sexual revolution, and accelerated through technology (internet/social media).
Both safeguards have now been removed. What is the result? Rise of sin and Christian countries have become wicked.
What is the light of America (and Europe)? Only fans and bachelors? Divorce and abortions? Western civilization is sick, and the curses for dis obedience are already here. A nation that is sick has no right to judge another nation, or attempt to change them.